Following is part of my phone conversation with Dr. Harvey which may be of use to you in understanding the curse.

He spent the first portion of the call on my history regarding when first symptoms were experienced from the day of the dust cloud. I had within two days of the dust cloud feelings of itching and being eaten alive. I told him of the tremendous biting feelings, described the insect I found wiggling on my finger thinner than a hair only about 1/16” in length, the black specs, the rashes around the bites, the plug samples, the different meds, my early control with garlic and diet—the papules that turned into hardened masses like scabs that never came off. He asked if I had any red spots like strawberries, and I confirmed their presence.

He then wanted to know in-depth my symptoms which he was by in large surprised I have very few compared to most who have suffered this long. I summarized my diet and how it has helped keep symptoms at bay and later on in the discussion, he mentions that the diet may have significantly reduced my symptoms when I asked him about the flu and that I noticed my symptoms seemed worse during the flu.  

After he took the information, he began to explain the origin of these infectious agents and I happened to remember to turn on my recording device about one minute after he began as he’s sharing the source of the pathogens. Some of the medical terms may be misspelled.

Dr Harvey: Unbelievable, we’ve cultured tobacco mold, cultured bacteria blowing across the ocean from north Africa blowing across the Atlantic Ocean through the currents that flow from the south that bring particles from North Africa Riding on those currents are bacteria. We’ve found almost anything you want to name in people we’ve been treating. A bunch of symptoms like the kinds that you’ve been talking about.

Me: Sorry to interrupt, I just remembered back in the early stages when I was severely infected before I used the diet and the garlic, I would have these bites and huge rashes about an inch in diameter.

Dr Harvey. Ok, that’s what I see more commonly than anything.

Me: and I understand that rashes are caused by bacteria

Dr Harvey: Well, some maybe, some not. Some we don’t even know what they are. At some point, we know how to make it go away.

Me: That’s good news.

Dr Harvey: We don’t know what the specific agents are--they can be almost anything. In normal people, they aren’t a problem. If something happens to the immune system of the skin, then you’re going to get almost anything that comes along that were never meant for humans, but what was meant for plants and other animals. The world has millions of these things.

Me: That makes sense, they usually say that humans can’t get these things—they live on plants not on humans.

Dr Harvey: Why are you different and why are these other folks different? It took us a while to start to understand

I guess I was one of the first persons in the country who by accident tested one of these people for Borreliia and she was positive and I treated her for Borrelia and lo and behold, her skin lesions went away.

Me: now Borrelia is exactly Lymes’ disease?

Dr Harvey: No, Not exactly, the human variant. Borrelia does cause lymes disease if it’s a variant that comes out of the white footed mouse through a tick. When it’s human to human it’s slightly different Borrelia—it’s got the ability to move human to human.

Like Saars was an animal disease until it jumped form pigs to humans or was it chickens in China last year?

We think that Borrelia mutated into this new form probably a thousand years ago and has been in humans and moving at a level one can’t see and never tested for before.

Me: May I ask you what the connection is between morgellan’s and protozoan?

Dr Harvey: Yeah, borrelia is not a protozoa, but protozoa enter into this also. Ok, the protozoa we found--we thought that Lymes—we have the models that show how Borreliia can in the way that it keeps being extruded by red cells—it never leaves—just keep replenishing itself reproducing because red cell break open—they die every 120 days. Everyday a few pop open, dump borrelia into the blood stream. The immune system sees them, sends these organelles--they’re actually white cell types—T cells—fagocites—they’re fagocites and monocites that crawl along the blood ingest these pieces of bacteria and the monocites are actually the main trigger in the immune system that identifies the agent and starts sending out chemicals—psydocans chemicals sent through the blood that start the process of getting rid of a blood infection. There are a  bunch of psydocans that are sent out--different types—one of the types is TnF alfa which makes chronic inflammation and so the entire body becomes inflamed at a very low grade and it starts to have a non good effect and also because the macrophage has taken up these things, it appeared as though they were being hampered in how they worked by the Borrelia got inside of them—we see in a microscope go in to be eaten by the macrophage and we go in a day or two later and look at the living blood still alive in the laboratory kept under a cover slip with oxygen and out of the borillia would come 50 of these things which meant they were taking over the macrophage, manufacturing their own babies, and usurping the energy. The macrophage was hampered in their activity and ability to function which meant immune deficiency.

Me: I had the flu about a month ago, I noticed my diet was much more sensitive I had problems.

Dr Harvey: That certainly happens your immune system takes a hit from the flu And the Psydocan levels—you have it pretty much under control, for someone else the flu symptoms would kick up faster and be more severe.  

The main bacteria that get into the body first that shouldn’t be there are the organisms--primarily we’ve been looking at animal organisms—the protozoa and Babesia. Well, how would I know that it’s there? Because of the red dots on your skin is from Babesiz and it means that organism is sitting in your red blood cells. You’re infected. You would not be infected if  you didn’t have Borrelia already. we thought it was Borrelia, but Borrelia also turns out to be a pathogen that one would not have gotten if it weren’t for a knock out of the macrophage.

Vandervilt University probably discovered last week what happened to the macrophage—that is maybe the essence of all chronic human illness-- of which one variant is what you have That is an organism called Chlamydia. It’s ubiquitous in the world, on animals, trees, soil, plants, and one gets it by droplet spread or dust spread. It gets into the body and then it starts to multiply and take over the macrophages and it hampers their function.

That’s sexually transmitted!

Well no, there are three species of Chlamydia We’re not talking about that species. Chlamydia pneumonia is the one doing the problem. Psychotica is one and Chlamydia trichcomotis causes eye and sexual problems. They have a property about themselves, but they are more easily dealt with and they don’t have the ability to knock out the macrophages.  

Me: I tried some enzyme therapy with serapeptase and it made my condition worse.

Dr Harvey: Be careful about stuff like that because we know what to do to get you out of the problem. But first we need to know if Borrelia and Babesia are in there. And right now we don’t have good sensitive testing because we’re just getting started for Chlamydia so we’ll have to defer that..

Question is would you consider getting testing for Borrelia and Babesia through Igenix  ASAP and that would allow us to treat you with what works at a level the insurance people wouldn’t fuss about it.

The following is paraphrased:

Other standard blood tests required are the CBC (the expanded version) and the CMP-14 blood test tells us about the liver, gall bladder

He discussed a couple different labs and suggested Bowen Research Lab in Florida that’s 100% and costs $250. Also discussed getting blood tests for my mother since she had been infected.

He went on to say that Dr. Bransfield in Red Bank is a world specialist is the disease plus the psychological effect experienced by many as connected to bipolar, ADD, ADHD and noted that Bransfield has written more text books and cured more people in the 25 years than anyone in the world.

There are still some unknowns and that is how to treat Morgellons (the mites). From what I gather at this point in time, many humans suffer from the effects of Borrelia and Babesia. Some of us unfortunates got them from mites which are a hell in themselves and others contracted these pathogens via ticks, mosquitoes or whatever.

Further discussion indicated that our weakened immune systems then causes us to be very easily affected by things like molds and other parasites that normally our immune systems would simply knock out.

If you click here, you'll go to a report his office sent me which outlines the etiology and treatements